Elgin Marbles

Should we send them back to Greece?

Did we pinch em or did we buy em ?
If we bought em then I can't see why we should give em back . If we pinched em then it's a different matter , but as far as I gather we bought em , so that makes em ours .

Don't know what all the fuss is about, there only a load of old stones?

They were nicked by the Ottoman Empire, then the Earl of Elgin nicked them - sorry, should say saved them from destruction - and they're in the British Museum so, strictly speaking, they aren't Elgin Marbles at all. They still belong to Greece and should be returned.

The British Museum argues that Elgin was an official diplomat and had acted with the permission of Turkish authorities.

Greek campaigners argue that the Turks were a foreign entity with no validity, acting against the will of the people whom they had invaded,

The sculptures were transported to Britain between 1801 and 1805. They were then sold to the British government and became some of the most storied artefacts in the collection of the British Museum, where they have remained. They went on public display in 1817

Rubble...give it back....and throw in the other rubble Stonehenge as a bonus apology.

Billinge Biker

Have yoo ever been to Stonehenge, when I went I found it to be a very 'mystical' experience

Rode past it last year....rubble.

This us about rushi sunak being ignorant and not meeting the Greek pm it would probably been sorted if they had met now sunak has made matters worse not very clever ,

So how would it have been sorted out if the Sunak had met the Greek PM ?

In Prime Ministers Questions today, Kier Starmer said to Rishi Sunak

"Greece is a fellow NATO member and economic partner, in view of that would it not have been better to have met the Greek PM"

In reply Rishi just made a jibe at Kier's sucking up to the EU, to which I thought it was a lousy answer, because I would have said

"In view of the fact that Greece is a fellow NATO member and economic partner of the UK, and the situation regarding the war in Gaza and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and the position regarding Greece being overwhelmed by immigrants crossing the Mediterranean Sea and landing in Greece, would it not have been better to discuss those subjects, rather than the ownership of some stones which Britain acquired over 200yrs ago" ?

TTS
What you would have said makes no difference it's what rishi sunak said ,he should have met Greek pm ,maybe it would have been about what you say
But is rushi making the marbles an excuse not to meet him to avoid
speaking about the migrants in greece

Surfer Tom

But it is such a trivial matter, when there are more important things going on in the world.

I like the Elgins Heaven must have sent you is a classic tune

TTS
Exactly rushi is useing them as an excuse to avoid talking to Greek pm wonder why on tv it's about migration